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Download This Show is your weekly access to the latest in social media, consumer electronics, digital politics, hacktivism and more. Presented by Marc Fennell for ABC Radio National. Published every Friday.


  • Can Uber buy its way to profit?

    Jul 09 2020

    Uber prepares to dish out $2.65 billion on whatever-you-can-think-of delivery company. Facebook is dumping one of its experiments. How tech companies are using Hong Kong as a testing ground for relations with China. Plus, China’s most influential social media platform in the West is increasingly being tested itself. Guests:  Rae Johnston, Science and Tech Editor, NITV @raejohnston + Kunal Kalro, Founder & CEO Eugene Labs @kckal

  • Why Australia doesn't use Apple-Google COVID tracing tech

    Jul 02 2020

    What happens when two major nations go to battle on the short, cute, video platform of TickTock, and could TickTock compete with Instagram and YouTube for all those ad dollars? Plus, the world’s most powerful new supercomputer. And why the Australian government won’t switch the COVID tracing app to the model supported Apple and Google. Guests: Jeremy Kirk, Executive Editor, Information Security Media Group @Jeremy_Kirk + Olivia Rosenman, audio producer and journalist @olivesophierose

  • Trump vs K-pop?

    Jun 25 2020

    Why are fans of Korean pop at war with Donald Trump? Why Twitter wants you to leave it a voice mail. Why we're under sustained cyber attack from China - except the government doesn't want to name China, so why say anything at all? And Apple thinks you’re not washing your hands properly. It's been a weird week in media, tech and culture. Guests: Alex McCauley, CEO StartupAus @alexmccauley + Angharad Yeo, host of ABC ME Spawn Point @angharadyeo

  • Facial recognition faces a rethink?

    Jun 18 2020

    Why major tech companies are pulling their facial recognition software back from police. Plus, “Want to read this before retweeting?” Twitter tests a new feature that could slow down the spread of rage and viral misinformation. And deep fake faces could have major repercussions on everything from politics to porn, but one social media giant has a plan to stop them…maybe. Guests: Sarah Moran, CEO, Girl Geek Academy @SarahMoran + Peter Marks, software developer, Access Informatics @petermarxy

  • #BlackLivesMatter and technology

    Jun 11 2020

    What role does tech play in the global protests against racism? How is it used by protestors and police? Plus, there's still a legal push to shut down piracy sites, even though the rise of streaming has largely achieved that. And which tech company wants to create digitally synthesised group selfies even though you’re socially distant? Yeah, its a thing! Guests: Rae Johnston, Science and Tech Editor, NITV @raejohnston + Nic Healey, Breakfast show host, ABC Western Plains @dr_nic

  • Space - The final cashier

    Jun 04 2020

    Donald Trump has wielded Twitter to command, reshape and confound the new agenda for years, but what happens when Trump and Twitter go to war? If someone defames you in a Facebook comment - who do you sue? And we’ve entered a new age of commercial space flight with Elon Musk’s SpaceX taking humans to the international space station - but what are the knock-on effects of a corporate space industry? Guests: Sarah Moran, CEO, Girl Geek Academy @SarahMoran + Ariel Bogle, online technology reporter, ...more

  • Is Foxtel's Binge any good?

    May 28 2020

    First there was Foxtel, then Foxtel Now, Foxtel Go, Foxtel Play and then Presto. For years Foxtel have tried to make the transition to a Netflix style streaming service - have they finally got it right with BINGE? Joe Rogan is one of the biggest podcasters on the planet. His interview show gets big names and in an exclusive deal with Spotify, Rogan will be paid megabucks. Why and will fans follow him? Guests Seamus Byrne, writer and broadcaster of tech, future, gaming, and digital culture @seam...more

  • Should we work from home forever?

    May 21 2020

    Now that millions of Australians have been forced to work from home, will the way we work ever quite be the same? Also, what data was taken in attacks on My Health Record and Service NSW? And, can Quibi be salvaged? Tegan Jones, Editor, Gizmodo @Tegan_Writes + Cameron Wilson, internet reporter, BuzzFeed News Australia @cameronwilson.

  • Artificial Intelligence Eurovision & Music vs COVID-19

    May 14 2020

    From online streaming to digital tip jars to platforms like Patreon, Australian musicians are turning to the internet to survive. But will it be enough? Plus, Australia just beat the world at making music with artificial intelligence. So what does a pop song written by AI actually sound like? Hear it this week, on DTS. Guests: Caitlin Welsh, Editor, Mashable Australia @Caitlin_Welsh + Dom Alessio, Digital Export Producer, Sounds Australia @domalessio

  • Success(ion): Foxtel keeps HBO

    May 07 2020

    Game of Thrones, Succession, True Detective... there's no shortage of iconic HBO shows, but how much does Foxtel need them for its new streaming service? Also, would you entrust Facebook with a messenger service for your kids? Guests: Angharad Yeo, ABC television presenter, video game critic, technology journalist and entertainer @angharadyeo + Ben Grubb, technology journalist and Homepage Editor, The Sydney Morning Herald @bengrubb

  • How safe is COVIDSafe?

    Apr 30 2020

    This is one of the big questions when it comes to the government's new app, but is there a simple answer? Plus, how an entire country in the South Pacific managed to lose their domain to Sweden. And Facebook launches their Zoom competitor, but is it really necessary? Guests: Ariel Bogle, online technology reporter, ABC Science @arielbogle + Nic Healey, Breakfast presenter, ABC Western Plains @dr_nic

  • Money please? Google and Facebook asked to pay up

    Apr 23 2020

    This week on DTS, exams in the age of isolation and why students are up in arms about privacy. Plus, the Australian government will compel Google and Facebook to pay local media outlets for content, but exactly what will that look like? And how social media giants are stopping illegal gatherings. Guests: Ariel Bogle, online technology reporter, ABC Science @arielbogle + Seamus Byrne, writer and broadcaster of tech, future, gaming, and digital culture @seamus

  • The race to contact trace

    Apr 16 2020

    Ever think about how many germs live on your phone? This week on DTS, we'll talk you through the best way to clean it. Plus, Australia weighs up contact tracing apps, while Google and Apple join the fray. And e-sports are getting a boon from our social isolation, but does it still suck? Guests: Tegan Jones, Editor, Gizmodo @Tegan_Writes + Matt Hopkins, Senior Native Content Manager, Pedestrian Daily @mopkins88

  • Is new streamer Quibi any good?

    Apr 09 2020

    This week on DTS, why 5G towers around the world are being torched. Plus, we'll put Quibi under the microscope and look at just how secure your Zoom meeting really is. Guests: Rae Johnston, Science and Technology Editor, NITV @raejohnston + Angharad Yeo, ABC television presenter, video game critic, technology journalist and entertainer @angharadyeo

  • Has COVID-19 killed the cinema?

    Apr 02 2020

    Remember when going to the movies was a thing? Well this week on Download This Show we ask whether the combination of streaming and COVID-19 will be the final nail in its coffin. Plus, Singapore has signed hundreds of its citizens up with a contact tracing app to help limit the spread of the virus. But is this government surveillance gone too far? And, how faith groups are leading the way in building communities in the age of isolation. Guests: Ariel Bogle, online technology reporter, ABC Scienc...more

  • Updated: Locked down and ready to Zoom

    Mar 26 2020

    There are too many video conferencing apps. So this week on Download This Show, which is the least worst? Plus, how well is Australian internet holding up to our socially isolated future? And, how are streaming services responding to us all being stuck in the house? Guests: Tegan Jones, Editor, Gizmodo @Tegan_Writes and Seamus Byrne, writer, broadcaster of tech, future, gaming and digital culture @seamus This is an updated version of our episode

  • How can tech fight coronavirus?

    Mar 19 2020

    It’s a weird time in the world, but what role does technology play in the age of COVID-19? Also, forget roll call, schools could soon have facial recognition. And will it ever be possible to get conspiracy theories off YouTube? Guests: Nick Kwek, Technology Journalist & Filmmaker @NICKKWEK and Angharad Yeo, ABC television presenter, video game critic, technology journalist and entertainer @angharadyeo

  • Can Fleets fix Twitter?

    Mar 12 2020

    What's the one thing we all need more of? The answer, of course, is screen time. And you're about to get it in the last place you need it. So where will these new screens be? Find out on this week's DTS. Plus, Twitter has been experimenting with a fleeting new service, but will it detoxify the platform or make it worse? And a surprising billionaire media baron is investing in fighting online misinformation - but will it actually work? Guests: Ariel Bogle, online technology reporter, ABC Science ...more

  • Wanna buy a chunk of Twitter?

    Mar 05 2020

    For the low, low price of $1 billion you can acquire enough shares to reshape one of the most powerful social media platforms in the world. But is it really going to be that easy? This week on DTS, the campaign to take Twitter and what it means for co-founder Jack Dorsey. Plus, in the wake of millions of dollars being raised for bushfires, should there be more flexibility around where crowd-sourced funds can go? And would you put a smart watch on your kids or grandkids? Guests: Nick Kwek, Techno...more

  • Why so much heat on Huawei?

    Feb 27 2020

    It's the controversial Chinese technology giant banned from building infrastructure in countries around the world. What is it about Huawei that's generating so much heat? Plus, Twitter considers labelling 'harmfully misleading' tweets by politicians, but will it work? Also on DTS this week, is it lying if a politician's computer generates his own face speaking in another language? And Sweden road-tests a new cashless future. Guests: Rae Johnston, Science and Technology Editor, NITV @raejohnston ...more

  • Why don’t we vote in elections with an app?

    Feb 20 2020

    This week, the messy world of electronic voting. Why are some people pushing it? And could it ever work? Plus, funny internet memes and photoshop jokes are big business for politics. US presidential candidates are buying in, but how much impact do they really have on elections? And it was the live mobile-first quiz show that was beloved by millions. So who destroyed HQ? Guests: Ariel Bogle, online technology reporter, ABC Science @arielbogle + Brad Esposito, director of content at Eucalyptus @br...more

  • Creating a virtual traffic jam with a wagon of phones?

    Feb 13 2020

    How a German artist and his generous friends pulled off a Google Maps hack and fake traffic jam. Plus the things that go wrong when you use tech to prove a person’s gender and how long until we have an academy awards for streaming services? Do we want that? Guests: Olivia Rosenman, audio producer, @olivesophierose + Luke Hopewell, Editor, Telstra Exchange @lukehopewell

  • Tackling coronavirus hoaxes and fake news online

    Feb 06 2020

    According to a friend of a friend of a person on Facebook, coronavirus is a biological weapon leaked from a lab in Wuhan, it could also be stolen from a lab in Canada and a vaccine exists, but it's being withheld. How are social platforms tackling online misinformation? Plus, a social network for the rich and Spotify's plan to change the way you listen to radio. Guests: Sarah Moran, Co-Founder and CEO, Girl Geek Academy @SarahMoran + Daniel Van Boom, News editor @CNET @dvanboom

  • The curious case of Jeff Bezos

    Jan 30 2020

    He's one of the richest people in the world, commands a shopping empire and funds rockets to Mars - how did Jeff Bezos' phone get hacked? Social media may not be rotting your brain and mental health as much as once thought. Plus, are your baby photos accessible on the internet? Guests: Jeremy Kirk, Information Security Media Group @jeremy_kirk + Rae Johnston, Science and Technology Editor, NITV @raejohnston

  • Quibi, Clearview AI and cleaner wars?

    Jan 23 2020

    Would you pay money for Quibi, a mobile video streaming service with 10 minute episodes made only for phones? Plus, the Australian facial recognition tech that's allowing US police forces to match photos of unknown people to their online images. And can you use a video game to make war less abusive? Guests: Ariel Bogle Online Technology Reporter, ABC Science @arielbogle Tegan Jones, Editor Gizmodo @Tegan_Writes

  • Bad tweets, defamation and other Christmas miracles

    Dec 13 2019

    The mystery 5 letter acronym that saved billionaire Elon Musk from being sued and what this test case means for social media and terrible jokes. The founder of Twitter decides to make Africa fight over him, and the biggest technology stories of 2019. Guests: Rae Johnston, Science & Technology Editor NITV @raejohnston and Seamus Byrne writer & broadcaster @seamus

  • Google founders say goodbye (kinda)

    Dec 06 2019

    Facebook builds a chatbot to help employees answer awkward questions about the company during the holidays! Is it the end of an era as Google’s co-founders move on (kinda)? China's latest moves on face recognition regulations. And we say goodbye to one of our favourite guests. Guests: Claire Reilly, CNET @reillystyley Cameron Wilson, Buzzfeed

  • Cybertruckin' all the way to Mars

    Nov 29 2019

    Why have an ordinary truck when you can have a Cybertruck? Tesla unveils its futuristic new take on a truck and it goes wrong. Plus, so many podcasts in the world but what if there was a better way of finding them? Spotify reckons its got the answer. Guests: Ariel Bogle, ABC RN online technology reporter @arielbogle and Matt Hopkins, Pedestrian Daily @mopkins88

  • Does Disney+ now own your childhood?

    Nov 22 2019

    The house of mouse, Skywalker and Simpsons has arrived. So is Disney plus any good? Also on DTS, Google makes a play for a slice of the gaming pie and does anyone really need a phone that can bend into an old school flip phone?

  • The WeWork debacle explained

    Nov 15 2019

    Why does a company that rents office space need a side business making artificial waves? Plus, Netflix famously don’t give out viewing numbers but suddenly with the rise of new streaming services like Apple and Disney, they're about to change their tune. Guests: Claire Reilly, CNET @reillystyley and Ben Grubb Homepage Editor, The Sydney Morning Herald @bengrubb

  • Is Apple TV+ worth the money?

    Nov 08 2019

    What does a soviet controlled moon, a toxic daytime tv show and world of blind people have in common? Apple is hoping the concepts behind its new shows will entice you to sign up for the latest instalment in the streaming wars. Plus, why Google wants to buy Fitbit, and one of the cesspools of the internet may be back from the dead. Guests: Rae Johnston, editor Junkee @raejohnston and Tegan Jones, Editor, GizmodoAU @Tegan_Writes

  • Facial recognition login for porn?

    Nov 01 2019

    Home Affairs has suggested using face scans to check people's age before they watch online pornography and access some gambling sites. The launch of digital drivers licences in NSW, Google in court and Twitter just decided to do something that Facebook have refused to do. Guests: Ariel Bogle, online technology reporter ABC RN science @arielbogle and Matt Hopkins, Pedestrian Daily @mopkins88

  • Lying, stalking and other social media pastimes

    Oct 25 2019

    Lying as a politician on Facebook is totally fine...wait, what? Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg defends the social network's decision to let politicians lie in ads. Also, inside the creepy world of stalker apps and what if you could move your Instagram account to a whole new app? Guests: Rae Johnston, Editor of Junkee @raejohnston and CNET Senior Editor & Presenter @reillystyley

  • New things in the world of news

    Oct 18 2019

    The news business. From subscription to streaming, podcasts to programmatic advertising - what's the future for news media? Guests: Gautam Mishra, inkl CEO, @jeamish and Caitlin Welsh, Editor, Mashable Australia, @Caitlin_Welsh

  • The future of space

    Oct 11 2019

    After this year's image of a black hole, 'we have seen what we thought was unseeable', what could come next? Exploration of the Moon and Mars, a Space Force? This week we delve into the future of the final frontier. Guests: Prof Alan R Duffy, Swinburne astronomer and Lead Scientist of the Royal Institution of Australia @astroduff and Claire Reilly, Senior Editor, CNET @reillystyley

  • The difference between fame and influence

    Oct 04 2019

    Understanding the multi-billion dollar digital influencing industry with Sara McCorquodale - when it works and when it doesn’t. Whether Facebook and Instagram removing likes is really about giving you better mental health. Plus, virtual clothes shopping and Apple's new premium news service.

  • Move things with your mind

    Sep 27 2019

    Nothing less than actual telekinesis! A wristband capable of transmitting electrical signals from the brain to computer input and Facebook. The location start-up that divides the globe into 3 magical words, and a goose that's shaking up the gaming world. Guests: Jessie Hughes, VR expert and creative technologist and Claire Reilly, Senior Editor CNET @reillystyley

  • All rise for Facebook supreme court

    Sep 20 2019

    Facebook reveals its blueprint for an independent oversight board or 'supreme court'. E-sports - marketers are targeting gamers with a trifecta of gambling, junk food and alcohol ads. Plus, how much plastic surgery will it take for facial recognition to not work? There’s at least one woman in China who can answer that. Guests: Ariel Bogle and Daniel Van Boom

  • Jennifer Aniston - free with that iPhone

    Sep 13 2019

    Why Apple TV is launching its streaming service with shows from Oprah, Steven Spielberg, Reese Witherspoon and more. Plus, why does a new phone need 4 cameras, and forget The Bachelor - Facebook have rolled out their dating service.

  • iPhones hacked, sites blocked and trust

    Sep 06 2019

    Do you trust the that your Phone hasn’t been hacked? That the government will pull hateful material off the internet? While we’re at it, do you trust that pulling hateful content off the internet will stop atrocities like the Christchurch shooting? Close your eyes, cross your arms fall backwards into the week of media, technology and culture. Guests: Peter Marks GovHack @petermarxy and Ariel Bogle technology reporter ABC Science @arielbogle

  • The future of music

    Aug 30 2019

    There's more music than ever before available to stream and to be served up to you by an algorithm. It's a world where talent will get you far, but going viral may just get you further. We can stream huge festivals like Coachella, and soon there’ll be arena extravaganzas with holograms of long dead musicians…What more lies ahead?

  • Anti-surveillance fashion and Disney+ to launch in Australia

    Aug 23 2019

    A new clothing line lets you camouflage yourself as a car to mess with surveillance cameras. Teenagers get news from Facebook – who knew! And more streaming options with Disney+. Guests: Tegan Jones, Editor, Gizmodo @Tegan_Writes and Matt Hopkins, Pedestrian.tv

  • Podpass to my Houseparty

    Aug 16 2019

    Is messaging just not festive enough? DTS looks at the new video chat app Houseparty - you can create 'rooms' with friends. How does it compare with other message apps? Plus Facebook may or may not be listening to your voice-to-text messages but podcast producers do really want to hear from you and your data.

  • Video games probably don't cause US gun massacres

    Aug 09 2019

    Donald Trump linked the recent US shootings to violent video games....we explore that old bogeyman again. Why do websites end with .com? And meet some of the little known women who brought you the internet. Guests: Alex McCauley, CEO StartupAUS @alexmccauley Rae Johnston, Editor Junkee @raejohnston and Claire L. Evans, author of Broad Band: The Untold Story of the Women Who Made the Internet

  • Fortnite millionaires and Adelaide's games industry

    Aug 02 2019

    Payday for young gamers at the Fortnite World Cup - how did a battle royale game become such big business? Legislating against social media addictions and why Adelaide is a thriving centre for games development.

  • Choose your own emoji

    Jul 26 2019

    What is the emoji? The Unicode Consortium, which decides on new emojis, wants to know if you have an idea for a new one. Plus, Snapchat is alive and well - put some bunny ears on that profit statement! And how will Netflix handle its new big competitors?

  • Instagram doesn't like you anymore

    Jul 19 2019

    The legacy of the computer password, the app that will plausibly age your face to the point that it's kinda creepy and influencers of Instagram in mild revolt as the social platform kills of the visible 'like' counter. Guests: Rae Johnston, Editor, Junkee @raejohnston and Ariel Bogle, Technology Reporter, ABC Science @arielbogle

  • Cars and the future of transport

    Jul 12 2019

    The future of driving: AI in the driver's seat, electric and hydrogen car update, and will we own cars anyway? What's hype and what's not?

  • How much do you value your privacy?

    Jul 05 2019

    How much do you value your privacy? Does it bother you what social media companies, governments know about you - your money, your body?

  • The great firewall of China

    Jun 28 2019

    James Griffiths joins Marc Fennell to discuss the world's most sophisticated censorship system. China's internet blocks certain information, but it also prevents any organising of social movements. It turns out, other nations are adopting China's version of the internet.